Pinkboard: Party Graffiti Wall 59
I am regularly challenged about the editorial policy of Pinkboard. And I regularly need to explain what Pinkboard is and why I need to have an editorial policy. So here we go again ...
Pinkboard is owned and operated by myself (Panther). I created Pinkboard in 1986 (before some of you attended your first birthday party and before many of you started clubbing). Since then I have invested thousands and thousands of dollars into operating and maintaining Pinkboard. Each year I pour lots of money into Pinkboard to keep it running (it is not my full time job). I also spend many hours maintaining and enhancing it. I feel therefore that I have some right to dictate the editorial policy.
Pinkboard is not a public forum. It is a forum that allows anonymous comment by unregistered persons, subject to moderation. "Pinkboard reserves the right, at any time, to edit or delete any contributions ..." (Read the small print!)
Posting on Pinkboard is not a right, it is a privilege.
Thirteen years ago, when the first graffiti wall started, most people on the net knew each other. As the net became more popular the variety of people grew. Bitchiness turned into flames and then into venom. So Pinkboard, and virtually every other discussion forum on the net, introduced moderation. Today you find very few sites that are not moderated. Pinkboard has so far managed without mandatory registration for the graffiti walls.
Pinkboard is often accused of "censorship", that is: the act of withholding information from the public. I sometimes choose to not allow posts, but Pinkboard is not preventing anyone from having their information released elsewhere. (Get a blog and you can publish it yourself.) You might also want to read the moderation policy.
Parties are supposed to be about enjoyment. This wall is intended to be about anticipating and sharing that enjoyment. Unfortunately this wall sees a lot of agro: people who believe that their point of view is the only one; people who rubbish anything that is not to their liking; people who continually put down others. These people drive away those who just want to enjoy themselves. Because Pinkboard is anonymous even I can't tell who or how many people do this, but I suspect it is just a few.
Some things have to be said, and I let them be said. But once everything has been said anything further is, I am sure, counter-productive. I (regularly) ask you to put yourself in the other person's place and try to imagine how they would feel. Continued criticism and negative feedback is demoralising. I am surprised some people in our community continue to make such an effort when they are shown so little appreciation. I frequently wonder why I do.
So here we go again ... I ask you to respect the other posters and their views. I ask you to be generous with your praise and constructive with your criticism. I ask you to celebrate that we have such venues and parties where we can be ourselves without fear. I ask you to put the fun back into Pinkboard.
Party Graffiti Wall 58
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New Wall ... Woo Hoo !!!!!!
I HAVE BROKEN THE PARTY CHERRY!
[d'LUX] @ Midnightshift Club, Saturday 17th May
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Guest Djs; William Silva[Sao Paulo,Brazil,tribal house]
Chip[Sydney,Australia,'tribal with an edge']
I have worked as a bartender for a few years now and I have always had this idea of putting a party together that would reflect what a brazilian party is all about, I'm talking about the vibe, the production, the twisted ideas and a party to remember, as we say in Brazil every opportunity to party is an excuse to throw yourself out there and be open to embrace an experience that can build into an absolut unforgettable memory piece.
When I say Brazil do keep in mind we are not thinking women in their bikinis and feathers, we talking about great beats, hot bodies in our famous speedos and drag shows that goes beyond the usual and expected.
You will see what we talking about as you walk through the door.
Our guest Dj William will be throwing the hot upbeat tribal sound and we will also welcome Dj Chip, who has thrown more hands in the air than that at a full Aussie Stadium.
Minnie Cooper has prepared an incredible show for the night and we will also feature 2 more twisted shows, Kitty Glitter and Decoda Secret will also be bringing their style to our d'Lux stage.
Our Brazilian go go dancers are also ready to bring their brazilian style to our great night .
We will also feature a great lighting laser show that will uplift our dance floor to a higher level to match our music.
We are all ready to welcome you and your friends to our special event. We hope to see you under our mirror balls this upcoming Saturday the 17th.
xx Daniel
PS. We will see you at the upstairs room at The Midnight Shift which has kindly supported our first d'LUX event.
Good luck Daniel, hope it's a success and the start of the revival for the Shift!!
manacle is back! it opens this month! i cannot fucking wait! have been lying low for months waiting for a decent place to go to in this god forsaken town !
details here:
http://www.samesame.com.au/news/local/2426/The-New-Manacle-Unveiled.htm
ACTION at the Phoenix .
It is the third Saturday of the month so ACTION is back at its old haunt the Phoenix on Saturday night where they have special guests, and Sydney duo, Telefunken playing the main set.
Joining Telefunken will be another DJ who is new to ACTION - Blair, who will be showcasing his deep, techy sound.
Thanks for explaining it Daniel, the poster alone just doesn't let us know what it's about.
Sounds like a fantastic night. I know Chip can raise the roof when he plays edgy tribal
See you there!
(oh and the price is right as well)
Boy's Night Out @ the Bank Hotel
Scott Pullen is our special guest at the Bank Hotel tonight. Scott recently returned from representing Australia at the World DJ Festival in Seoul.
You can view his photos at:
www.myspace.com/thegrooveacademy
So going by the pics of previous parties jeans are ok....well Levi 501's are my fetish - so will wear them with boots and black tee. Hope its gunna be a good night.
Yummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I like the way 501's hang on a guy. They have been my favourite jeans for decades ! got them in white black and couple of different shades of blue.
Thanks for the grooves last night Scott - what a nice fellow and a terrific dj. Really nice stuff.
Manacle
The inner west will get a new gay bar on May 30 – this one in Petersham.
Manacle owners Andrew Clarke and Stuart Fraser this week confirmed the widely circulating rumour they had bought the Clarence Hotel on the corner of Parramatta Rd and Crystal St and would be opening for business on the last day of the month.
The popular Manacle club, previously located under the Taylor Square Hotel, will form part of the new venue.
“If you’d asked us two years ago if we would ever move away from Oxford St, we would have said no,” Clarke said. “But it’s become too violent now.”
The pair, who have been without a venue since Manacle shut its doors late last year, said they were confident the new location would attract not only patrons of the previous club, but a whole new host of people who no longer want to go out on Oxford St.
“In the last five weeks we were at Taylor Square we did a postcode survey and found that about 75 percent of our customers lived in the inner west, so we’re moving into their neighbourhood rather than having them come to ours,” Fraser said.
“It may mean that we lose some of our clientele who happen to live in Randwick or Bondi, but we are still only a cab ride away.”
Clarke and Fraser believe the purchase of the Clarence Hotel will make it the first gay-owned freehold venue in Sydney for a number of years.
However, the couple said patrons can expect more from the hotel than just the well-known Manacle brand. As well as the club, there will be a gaming room, public bar, TAB facilities, bistro and, in the future, the possibility of gay and lesbian accommodation.
The Manacle everyone knows and loves will form a key part of the overall venue and will maintain the same flavour as the previous venue, as well as the discreet entrance.
“This has to look exactly like Manacle at Taylor Square, otherwise our patrons are going to feel cheated,” Fraser said.
That includes the 300-plus pieces of framed memorabilia now sitting in storage at Rosebery, the infamous Manacle chain spiderweb, the cage, and the expected return of the strip’s best-known bouncer, Viv, who has been offered a return to the new premises.
Hordern hard rock on nose
A little excerpt below from an article in the SMH today. It's a little known secret that this years Mardi Gras Party was almost cancelled as the Hordern was flooded with sewarage just a couple of days before. While we were dancing away a few hundred truckloads of sewerage was being pumped out so that we could enjoy our night...
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WHEN the toilets began erupting in the Hordern Pavilion in the days before this year's Mardi Gras party, management did what most home owners do: call the plumber.
An electric eel will usually fix a blocked sewer, but this was no ordinary blockage.
The prospect of choked toilets at an all-night dance party that pulls 18,000 in a quiet year had the management reeling at the thought of glitter queens needing gumboots to get to the bathrooms. Sydney Water sent engineers to investigate.
At first they were stumped; the huge sewer main under the building normally has plenty of capacity because it has to carry waste from the nearby Sydney Cricket Ground and the Sydney Football Stadium, as well as the Fox Studio precinct and many of Paddington's finer homes.
The engineers sent a tiny camera up the pipe, and could not believe what they saw: the sewer was jammed with concrete, apart from a small gap at the top of the pipe.
Cameras revealed the blockages ran for 140 metres in two sections. The first 80 metres ran right under the Hordern Pavilion. Another 60-metre section ran under the Royal Hall of Industries.
"The mother of all blockages," was how Sydney Water's spokesman Brendan Elliott described it.
With the prospect of sewage swamping the gay crowd's most glittering event, Sydney Water had no option but to install two bypass pipes, each 200 metres long, to stop the waste of thousands of sports fans turning the Hordern's toilets into fountains.
Full article at:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/illegal-dump-hits-hordern/2008/05/16/1210765174017.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
The Clarence (incorporating Manacle) - new at Petersham
I would love to see the new Clarence become similar to the extremely popular Peel Hotel in Melbourne, which I visited last month. First of all, the Peel keep out the straights by having shots of naked guys (incl thier bits) on all the plasma screens thoughout the place, and the music is a mix of more popular recognisable commercial music (top 40 etc). Would be great to see male strip shows make a comeback in NSW too, makes a change from Drag all the time.
Can't wait for it to open!! And so close, just down from Petersham station.
In the full page add on page 29 of SX yesterday about the opening of The Clarence (incorporating Manacle) i read this line with a hint of curiosity.....
The Clarence has a 24hr licence, a capacity around 350 and there are several sections...
* An OUTbar - The public bar catering to the GLBT community and their friends
* A bottle shop thru till 1am
* Wall Street - You can guess what this room is, it's just not mentioned in NSW
and so on and so on ............
OK , Am I right in guessing that they are so bold to be providing a back room ? And if so, how are they getting around the NSW laws regarding this issue ?
Very curious.
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Yes the hot male videos is always a drawcard for gays and a repellent for straights. Woody's bar in Toronto Canada has been doing it for years and it really gives the place clear branding and atmosphere.
track name?
hey everyone here's a doozy. have been searching for this track for several years but have very little memory
to go on. kate played this often in her terrace sets at home (mn2s, qn). it's mostly an instrumental floaty tune with a great synthy riff, then a vocal part which repeats.."so fucking beautiful".. sorry, i know this is a pretty poor description. help. anyone???
thanxx s.k.
Currently listening to: Sleeping in Airports - Agnelli & Nelson
"so fucking beautiful" is an acapella from Macy Gray's "Sexual Revolution."
Music is important too- the crowds that go to Palms (is always packed), and formerly the Imperial, would go to Clarence if they played similar music, (in the bar section).
The Peel in Melb does this so well- they have the popular music in the bar area, and the trace/tribal etc in the back dance club (which in this case will be the Manacle section). Plus the Peel has a type of "back room" where "things happen", which is up a staircase, with to an area with glass windows covered with prison bars, that actually overlooks the dance club area.
Now if we can just get our own version of the fabulously professional & diverse JoyFM glbt community radio station as well that Melb has, we'd be in gay heaven.
why dont you wait till they OPEN???? your post / suggestions come across very humorous.
Queens Birthday weekend
Can anyone recommend the best party for Queen's birthday weekend? There are just too many to choose from, and they all sound like fun.
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Inquisition on saturday night, Ruby recovery on sunday. It doesn't get much better than that.
I would say Homesexual @ Home on the Sunday night. It's gunna be great.
God Save The Queen at Chasers in Melbourne, and then the recovery afterwards across the road at Viper Room.
Depends on what kind of music you like ?
You have the choice
Tribal/Dirty house at Inquisition
Pop Trance at Ruby
Various at Homesexual
for me its INQUISITION. Best music ( for me ) and NO
attitudes ! great friendly crowd. Although being a thin
hairless guy , I dont get "that" kind of attention
but I still enjoy myself.
I would definitely say Inquisition, then Steve Lawler at Action (Arthouse) - hands down!
Rubys at the shift if you like Trance will be great
You can't go past DTPM on queen's birthday. It always delivers.
Indulgence at the Shift for me. This is a leather and/or denim event. Shigeki will be 1 of the 3 djs playing.
ACTION with Steve Lawler without a doubt.
"* Wall Street - You can guess what this room is, it's just not mentioned in NSW"
Oh my God , can they legally do this ?????
I hope so , it will certainly be a change compared to the boring sanitised way our other clubs are run
Your Ideas – Positions Vacant – Entertainment
You are Clarence, and The Clarence is more than just MANACLE and so we need you.
Your thoughts & ideas for OUTbar
Are you an entertainer with a concept for entertainment to suit OUTbar?
Positions available from just a few hours each week to a full weeks work. RSA and RCG essential with TAB training an added bonus.
Full address, phone numbers web address and email addresses are still to be finalized awaiting the release of the hotel domain name. In the meantime feel free to contact us here.
http://www.manacle.com.au/contact.html
Best to get ideas to them NOW, prior to them opening, to start off on the right foot. I think having some retro/popular music in the front "OutBar" is a great idea, and is certainly successful for The Peel in Melbourne.
We are doing the Queen's Birthday Grand Costume Ball up the Blue Mountains. Busy sewing the mostest fabulous outfits.
Armin Only
I'm going to Armin Only.
DJ Armin Van Buuren plus some vocalists guests.
It's a straight party on Friday 6th of June to kick off the long weekend.
I'm afraid I will miss out on Ruby this time.
Currently listening to: Markus Schulz - Without You Near
Groove and Growl
Guys,
Awesome line up for this event.... Ben Drayton, Sandi Hotrod and Rado all playing in one event.. helloooo how handbag can you get. Not to mention cheap uni priced drinks and a BBQ
Starting at 3pm at the Loft which is located in UTS. 15 For members, 20 for Kindred, and 25 for non members..
How better to keep partying after Phoenix rising has closed...
PS, Awesome lasers and lighting planned.
All the big events on the Queen's Birthday weekend are listed on Facebook... see which parties your friends are going to:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=4107064726
Armin Only - Friday, June 6
INQUISITION XVI - Saturday, June 7
Get Together Saturday, June 7
Shine - Sunday, June 8
Action present Steve Lawler - Sunday, June 8
DTPM: God Save The Queens - Sunday, June 8
Homesexual 020 : High School Reunion -Sunday, June 8
We have set up a Facebook event to see which gay boys are going... if you are sign up here:
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=11646946724
We were maybe thinking of meeting at the Colombian first for a drink if people wanted to then head off to Armin in a bigger group...
New Website:
http://www.clarencehotel.com.au/
Yay!
Love the new logo & imagery.
"Wall Street - You can guess what this room is, it's just not mentioned in NSW" - "OK , Am I right in guessing that they are so bold to be providing a back room ? And if so, how are they getting around the NSW laws regarding this issue ?"
Isn't anybody else curious or concerned about this comment re the opening of The Clarence. With the pre-historic laws we have in NSW re this issue how can they get away with this or are they simply shooting themselves in the foot ?
Please discuss.
I think the owners' are being coquettish leaving us to guess the meaning of "wall street".
My guess is that its a poker machine room which, in NSW, doesn't need mentioning because every venue has them....
Any chance of a minibus service from the venue to Taylor square as a return taxi there will be about $60?
Currently listening to: Hearts on Fire - Cut Copy
the blow waves
Everybody must go see this amazing band this weekend in Sydney (pretty please)
They totally blew everyone in the forum @ Mardi Gras away. Really!
Support this homo supergroup... you won't be disappointed!
You get dj Sammy Jo (scissor sisters) from NYC too!
http://www.myspace.com/theblowwaves
xxxx
Currently listening to: little bitch (out on itunes now) - the blow waves
Better believe it. We worked very hard with the venue management to ensure it didn't disrupt the party.
Looks like the Metro has got it's all night license back! Yay!
See
http://www.inthemix.com.au/forum/showpost.php?p=391733467&postcount=241
For a happy promoter message.
Hopefully it can be used for lots more parties too.
So will we see a ToyboxNight?
Will there be anymore Toybox partys they didnt even post pictures of the last one on there site.
This is cool to see Metro has all night liscense back. Hopefully now we can get some great parties back there, would be nice to have a Toybox Party there again. Luv the Metro as a party venue.
From my understanding I'm pretty sure that Toybox is finished as a party and wont have another event so dont get too excited about Toybox meeting the Metro again.
Indulgence
Has anyone heard DJ Beefy Boy play?
manacle's new bar - the clarence hotel - is open for a test drive this weekend!
http://www.samesame.com.au/news/local/2471/Come-Test-Drive-The-Clarence.htm
I wonder if he will he be prime rib or stewing steak?
Phoenix Tommorrow night
Whats on at Phoenix tommorrow night?
Cops and Dogs and Raids
Cops and Dogs operation last night on Oxford street, in the city and in Kings cross.
So what clubs got hit in darlinghurst last night ? Any stories to tell people ??
It's not a backroom, it's just a pokies room, which they're not allowed to advertise under NSW gambling laws. T
i wonder which part of this sentence is pinkboard not able to verify.
the one that says its just a pokies room or the one they are not allowed to advertise it.
2am lockout?
THE late-night pub crawl, and the fights that sometimes accompany it, are under threat with the states to consider new nationwide lockout provisions as part of the national assault on binge drinking.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/locks-go-on-late-night-pub-crawls/2008/05/23/1211183102963.html
It sort of makes sense.
GO UNDERGROUND @ PHOENIX
This Saturday 31st May
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ROB GILBERT (melb)
MANDY ROLLINS
FEISTY
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From 11pm >>> $15 >>> free b4 midnight
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Dirty, Tribal, House!
Wednesdays @ the Bank
Kate Monroe returns to Australia's favourite grrls night this Wednesday 28th May. Kate is supported by one of the hottest new DJs on the block, Beth Yen.
Kylie is 40
Happy Birthday Kylie!
Currently listening to: Celebration - Kyliue Minogue
i found this post in pinkboard's archive. is anyone else missing it???? i thought salvation was awesome.
is there a place in sydney where i can go and dance to similar music? wish shift brought this party again...
"Its great to see the Shift are doing something completey different this Australia Day Long Weekend, and bringing the whole SALVATION production to Sydney. With several visits to London under my belt (yes I'm a trolley dolley) I can honestly say this monthly party is one of the best London has on offer.Hope they can reproduce the magic that is SALVATION at the shift. DJ Luke Hope rocks!
- Thu 15 Jan 2004 17:32:20 "
the slow demise of pinkboard ??
Heres an interesting observation I've recently made regarding the last few pinkboard graffiti walls , It makes for an interesting discussion, please keep your comments constructive please
Wall 55 - Average # posts per day = 14.60
Wall 56 - Average # posts per day = 13.52
Wall 57 - Average # posts per day = 9.54
Wall 58 - Average # posts per day = 9.21
Wall 59 - Average # posts per day = 4.50
It is my opinion that the over regulation of this forum seems to be driving people away. And is the introduction message to wall 59 sending a clear "you are not welcome" message to pinkboard regulars who want to discuss tough and meaningful topics. I'd suggest it is, because the above statistics certainly don't lie.
Anyone wanna discuss this and boost poor old wall #59's sagging average ??
maybe it's just a sad fact that there is very little to be excited about!
This Queens Birthday coming up for example it's just all the regular formulaic events - Homesexual, Action, Inquisition, DTPM... etc etc etc
Also I guess we are also over the usual complaints that happen on here!
I thought it was just because we are going into winter and people are partying less. The demise of the Hand-in-Hand parties and less new & interesting parties at this time of year would cause a normal slow down in posts.
Currently listening to: Bam - Fat Boy Slim
I dont think it has anything to do with moderation.
It needed done because some people were just nasty or saying things that could cause law suits to happen.
I am a regular on a Foxtel/TV forum and someone started a post on the upcoming gay channel on Foxtel. The usual homophobes posted who dont know how to use the remote to change channels but the next day the whole thread was completely removed. At least Panther puts a wall on hold and tells posters to ease up etc.
"I thought it was just because we are going into winter and people are partying less. The demise of the Hand-in-Hand parties and less new & interesting parties at this time of year would cause a normal slow down in posts."
it's got NOTHING to do with a slow partying season and it being winter. Here's the proof from the similar periods in 2006 and 2007 -
Wall 46 - (period 26/4/06 to 5/6/06) Average # posts per day = 18.26
Wall 53 - (period 10/5/07 to 17/6/07) Average # posts per day = 10.50
I think the winter season contributes a little to the falling stats but you simply cant ignore a drop off like 18.26 posts per day at this time in 2006 , to 10.50 posts per day at this time in 2007 compared to this current wall's 4.50 posts per day.
Indeed, the stats don't lie.
So the question remains, How can pinkboard come back from a situation where a great deal of its fans have stop contributing and walked away ? I personally cant see it recovering. People eventually get sick of trying to make useful contributions never to have their thoughts published. Maybe registered signatures being unmoderated is the way to go ?
Suggestions people ?
I have been following a thread on Yahoo about Gay rights and there are a number of posts that have been deleted for libelous and/or discrimination.
Some posters on here named people and I dont think that
is fair and also gives the person an excuse to sue if they can.
Also I dont like personal attacks. Especially DJ's. You get a dozen nasty posts naming a DJ but its usually balanced by others saying how they loved the party. Some just cannot seem to accept that there are different tastes and more so they have total disregard to a persons
feelings.
Like anything in todays world there are many sites now offering similar things to Pinkboard but I like Pinkboard as its local , it offers Forums, Personals, Job
ads etc all in the one site. Sure your Facebooks and whatevers have forums for party people etc etc and that would be great if travelling overseas and you can read up on them etc but Pinkboard is truly in Australia and is aimed at our community only.
Previous poster says - "Sure your Facebooks and whatevers have forums for party people etc etc and that would be great if travelling overseas and you can read up on them etc but Pinkboard is truly in Australia and is aimed at our community only"
Yet here we are looking at pinkboard with an ever number of dwindling avergae posts per day. You may like pinkboard but obviously many others no longer do and have moved on and the reason is all about people not being able to say what they want to say !
"You may like pinkboard but obviously many others no longer do and have moved on and the reason is all about people not being able to say what they want to say !"
How presumptive of you to speak for everyone. I know a lot of djs who have abandoned Pinkboard because too many bitch comments were being allowed to be posted. These people put a lot of work into what they do only to be torn down by those who have no clue or are having really bad come downs.
"This Queens Birthday coming up for example it's just all the regular formulaic events - Homesexual, Action, Inquisition, DTPM... etc etc etc"
Obviously another well informed opinion. Inquisition is held only once a year and never on the June long weekend until this year. So please explain how this is a regular formulaic event for the june long weekend?
Well I tried all those other sites like Facebook etc
but prefer Pinkboard.
Of course others are going to prefer the other sites. If they didnt they would not have flourished.
I doubt Pinkboard would want to be the same as Facebook?
its about variety.
Lots of things change -
Big dance parties 20 years ago were the gay ones and just about the only ones. Now it has diversified into many types.
20 years ago you wanted to see a new movie just as it was released it was George St cinemas now one has gone, 2 have merged and many cinemas have opened around the suburbs.
20 years ago Oxford St was about it for gay bars but not any more.
Years ago it was Pinkboard servicing the community but now there is competition but *personally* I dont think the others offer as broad a choice as you get on Pinkboard.
I've used it for personals, the forums, the occassional massage.
Beefyboy is awesome. Perfect choice for an Indulgence party - congrats to the Shift for getting him on board.
Normally 'Panther' refuses to publish any comment with regard to his moderation policy, and requests all comment to be directed to him via email. However, he has raised this issue in the introduction to Party Graffiti Wall 59, thus leaving himself open to public comment.
Moderation is fine, so long as it's applied evenly.
If you post some contentious replies, then you're IP range is put on a Watchlist and anything you post doesn't pass through the normal moderation process, meaning your post may be withheld for well over 12 hours. This often means that if the post is 'published' at all, it's now amongst the collapsed posts and not displayed, or if it is displayed, is no longer in context as discussion has moved on by 12 or more hours.
'Panther' is quite within his rights to operate his own little prescence on the net in anyway he wants. But if people find a more evenhanded way of having their views presented, then obviously they'll move on.
This is all the opinion of the poster, and Pinkboard is welcome to refute any claims of posts from certain IP ranges being held over for further moderation.
"It is my opinion that the over regulation of this forum seems to be driving people away"
Kind of agree. Plus there is much less moderation on Same Same.
We should all support and thank Panther for all his hard work in providing Pinkboard to the community.
Most of us don't contribute financially to the running of this website, but we do take advantage of the service it provides to us.
I've had so much enjoyment from the Party Graffiti Walls here, in getting a real sense of community and friendship. Sure, some of us get a little out of control at times, but we should be thanking Panther for all his time in managing this site and the Graffiti Walls.
Personally, I have been away for a couple of months, so haven't been contributing to the Walls. I can't speak for anyone else.
Well, I've narrowed it down to Inquisition or Ruby for Queens birthday weekend. I promised myself that I would only do one party per weekend after I disgraced myself over the Mardi Gras weekend.
Any suggestions?
One of my friends was a very regular contributor but they kept getting nasty attacks aimed at them, so they stopped contributing, as it was the only way to stop the horrid people getting to them. Nothing to do with not liking Pinkboard anymore, they were starting to get upset by a couple of the nasty people who wouldn't accept their opinions and were so horrible about it.
Inquisition $120, cold night party, isolated location
Unity (Ruby) $30, all indoors daytime, warmer. Close to all transport
Personally that's my reasoning to choose Ruby. Hope this helps.
after posting my salvation post yesterday my IP address was blocked. WHAT / WHO did i upset by saying i am missing a particular party??
it made me laugh, especially now - when everyone is talking about this forum being so heavily moderated. this is a fine example how thin the line is. i had no idea that by saying i am missing an event, that was actually good im crossing this line. in MY OPINION salvation was very refreshing back then and i believe it would be now as well. (i also believe and it is MY OPINION that it would stand out amongs what we are being offered these days)
New Venue Opening
Woo Hoo! Clarence Out Bar opens at 6pm tonight followed by the Manacle Bar at 9pm. Yay for the Inner West!
IP Addresses are automatically blocked to prevent spam appearing on these walls. IP Addresses are not blocked to prevent legitimate posters. If your IP address has been blocked inadvertantly please email me with the details and I will remove the block.
I think the reason why Pinkboard is declining is that it is anonymous. It doesn't promote any accountability and encourages bitchiness. This is my personal opinion (I have never understood why Panther puts that on one in every 20 posts. Isn't every post only that person's opinion?)
May I suggest you don't disgrace yourself? :0)
Anyhoo, you are talking about two very different events- it depends if you're into:
1) Glowsticks & Handbag
2) Leather & House
Currently listening to: Indian Electronica Radio
Got my ticket to Ruby's Shine. The last Ruby party at the Shift was amazing, the best lasers I have ever seen at the Shift. There were 6 full colour laser heads behind the water curtain. Can't wait for this one!
I'm hoping to do both Inquisition and Ruby. However as I'm also doing a recovery at 7am on sunday, I'm not sure I'm going to have the energy lol
lasers at Ruby eh? I reckon being at Action hearing Steve Lawler play is the pick of the bunch. Also like the early start time of the party too.
Lasers? Who cares about lasers? One of the best DJs in the world is playing at Action, so we're definitely going to catch Steve Lawler!
Pardon my ignorance but until a few months ago I had never head of Steve Lawler (and I thought I was pretty hip!)
Can those in the know let the rest of us know what to expect?
Has he released any CD's I can get hold off for a test drive?
Have my Action tickets regardless!
With a DJ line-up that includes Steve Lawler and at half the cost of Inquisition there is no doubt that ACTION ticks all the boxes.
I wonder if the police will have their dogs harrasing the crowd at World Youth Day just like they do for our events.
"Pardon my ignorance but until a few months ago I had never head of Steve Lawler (and I thought I was pretty hip!)"
hahahahahahahaha
this one does it for me tonight
...it is still worth coming back pinkboard, keep posting Mr Hip
"there is no doubt that ACTION ticks all the boxes"
except the one about being a community event where the proceeds go back to the community.
sometimes its not about 'ticking boexes' - sometimes its about being amongst friends, dancing to great music brought to you by local gay community djs who deliver just as well as the best overseas djs.
the ACTION parties at the Arthouse are give proceeds from both the bar and the tickets sales to the gay charity Twenty10. Twenty10 is the gay youth charity that provides support and housing for homeless young gay men and lesbians. Action just doesn't shout about it.
Clarence Manacle
Did anybody go to opening night of Manace last night and care to share?
It was packed out, music was good and the venue is a really refreshing change from the same old on oxford street. Bar service needs a bit of an upgrade, of sorts - it took awhile to get a drink. Otherwise, well done guys, good initiative.
Clarence Manacle
we arrived at 12 midnight, it was really packed out in the left bar and in the right dark bar. So proud to be part of leather man in sydney, so much appreciated with all your support, boys. However the place need more upgrade and carefully touch up to brings up the feel of leather pub. All my friends included me last night were dissapointed because : the bar men were not experienced enough, slow movement, not enough staff behind the bar to serve customers, took very long time for us to get the drinks. In the right dark bar, the bar look has not been changed since the clarence hotel taken over by Manacle management, the wooden cabinets, shelves and bright yellow light at the bar definitely need to be changed with more dark colour with red lights touches to make the place look more kinky. The mirror music duke box near the DJ needs to be removed out of the room. I didn't see the old chains from the old Manacle. There is no character whatsoever about leather being in that new Manacle. Very empty, nothing on the ceiling. We were expected to see some welcome entertainments in there, such as sexy leather boys dancing with leather mask with skimpy leather short pants or something. The place definitely needs to spend extra dollars to make us want to come back. After spent some pennies for the cab from oxford st to get there, we want something different. We want to support you New Manacle, but please do something to make us come back to you.
thanks for that
I understand this weekend is a soft opening of sorts, I guess they will look at what worked and what needs work and improve it further.
But sounds good
Yeah it was completely packed to the rafters. I wasn't expecting a quarter of the people who were there on opening night. I thought it would take some time to take off as a venue, but it seems that people in the inner west are really hungry for a venue. Let's hope this keeps up and was get a new "strip" in the inner west!
"Yeah it was completely packed to the rafters. I wasn't expecting a quarter of the people who were there on opening night. I thought it would take some time to take off as a venue, but it seems that people in the inner west are really hungry for a venue. Let's hope this keeps up and was get a new "strip" in the inner west"
Don't go wetting your pants just yet.
Opening nights of new venues are always packed. The true test is once you get to the 3rd or 4th weekend after opening night, then you know if you have a success or a flop.
I suggest we all sit back and show a bit of caution at this early stage. Patience is a virtue.
To be fair to the owners it was a soft launch weekend and they are literally still fixing the place up. You could see it was still a building site so I think its a little premature to start criticising it.
The front bar has not been touched (yet) at all so it has that daggy TAB bar sort of feel but with the pool tables is was busy all night up until when we left at 2am.
The back section (Manacle) has been painted black and the carpet has been ripped up. They are still yet to put the features in like the web chain plus I believe there are alterations to the bar to be done. The place was packed when we got there at 10pm but was thinning out by 1am so my guess is a lot of people just dropped by to check it out.
I think the place has great potential after they do a few more tweaks...
"We were expected to see some welcome entertainments in there, such as sexy leather boys dancing and leather mask with skimpy leather short pants or something. The place definitely needs to spend extra dollars to make us want to come back."
You and your friends clearly haven't been to Manacle before. It's just a bar.
If you are expecting all of that then perhaps don't "spent(sp) some pennies for the cab from Oxford St to get there".
Congratulations boys on your new venture opening at the Clarence!
Looking forward to watching the venue change as you go.
"entertainments in there, such as sexy leather boys dancing with leather mask with skimpy leather short pants or something."
The problem with paid entertainment is you feel rude if you don't pay them attention. In the old Barracks/Manacle the patrons were the entertainment, particularly in the early morning with BJs, FFs, whatever!
Currently listening to: Finlandia Op. 26 - Sibelius
"After spent some pennies for the cab from oxford st to get there"
I didn't spend any money to get there. I walked and this is one of the things that I think I'm really going to love about this place! It'll actually be a local!
Re: sydney venues
Guys, no offence, but just enjoy what you have for goodness sakes and support it! I live in Adelaide...believe me, all we have now is just the Mars Bar and that's it. The Hampshire recently told Blaze it no longer wants to be advertised as a venue or be a distribution point.
http://blazenewz.com/news/local/another-venue-gone-hampshire-hotel/
So what now who knows here, the Adelaide gay scene is so fragmented these days; don't get me wrong, I personally have always supported venues, but others well I'll leave it up to you. Just enjoy yourself, and don't let the degredation of venues, and the gay scene in general spread.
Currently listening to: Bourgie Bourgie - John Davis & The Monster Orchestra
Hopefully something replaces the Hampshire.. when I was in Adelaide last all I wanted was a few quiet beers on a Friday night and ended up at the mars bar (after discovering the Ed had gone too!) - so not what I was up for! There would have been about 80 people there - that's 80 poofs and dykes out on a Friday night in Adelaide in total (!!)
Unfortunately Jamie there are just enough fickle queens that they will whinge/bitch/moan and post their own personal bitchiness and not support a venue if the least little thing goes wrong.
They'll spread the word which will make others think twice about going to a venue and before you know it the venue closes and then they post a huge whinge about their not being enough gay venues.
Go back on the boards and just read and you will see the cycle.
To Jamie in Adelaide -
Your post doesn't cut any slack with me. Nobody forces you to live in Adelaide.
This post is unnecessarily nasty. It is from an ISP where many of the nasty posts originate: ...tpgi.com.au. I usually delete this sort of nastiness, but I felt it was time to make an example of it.
There is absolutely no excuse for such nastiness. It is not funny. It is not clever. It is completely disrespectful of the poster. It is not in the least constructive. It is only cruel and nasty. It is also the sort of comment that I get lambasted for deleting. It is the sort of comment that makes people stop posting on Pinkboard.
I apologise to Jamie for this nastiness.
Too true Panther.
I wonder if these posts happen more on Mon/Tue ? ie eccy
recovering ? cause I will blasted for asking that question but why post something bitching like that. Mind
you Panter I can assure you other sites get just as much nastiness. I have been following a forum on Yahoo 7 on
Gay Rights and some of the comments there are so mis-guided so disgusting I couldnt believe it and quite a few have been deleted by the moderator although on that site it actuallys leaves a message saying post deleted
etc.
I've tried the other boards/forums and personally prefer Pinkboard.
Lighten up peoples it's party weekend.
Looking forward to Inquisition on Sat night, then Home on Sun night, partying with bf and friends. Woo Hoo. This is last party weekend before the hibernation until Sleaze. Bring it on.
what a fantastic weekend ahead!!!
i decided not to do inqusition this year but i will be definitelly supporting recoveries (midnight shift / phoenix rising / manacle - decisions decisions)
then one of the hottest djs - steve lawler + HOT crowd as well. ACTION @ arthouse will be the place to be!!!!
indulgence or fag tag - decisions again.
phoenix rising on monday morning for sure.
bring it on!!!!!
dont you love long weekends?
Steve Lawler at ACTION
has anyone heard the Steve Lawler mix from the opening night of Space in Ibiza from 2 nights ago (1st June 2008)that is going around the internet?
It is seriously good stuff, well worth a listen. If this is the kind of thing that we are up for on Sunday night then Action is going to go OFF!! I can't f**king wait.!!!
http://depositfiles.com/en/files/5735650#
After playing very electronic music for the last few years, he's back on more of a house groove. His upcoming Viva compilation looks a lot mroe interesting than what he was playing 6 - 12 months ago.
Everything Steve Lawler does is pure quality. I loved his tribal "Lights Out" mixes & his deep tech mixes are hot!!!
This new mix from Space is awesome - Thanks!
Inquisition for me
Good on you Panther. I don't know why you put up with some of this aggravation. We are hugely indebted to you. Please do continue and take what steps are necessary to keep discussion within civilized bounds.
Well said Paul. Panther is a lovely guy and deserves our continued support.
OMG I SOOOO want to go to Action on Sunday night to see Steve but "good" Brad says I shouldn't due to a HUGE event I have on the week after for Telstra.
"evil" Brad says.... do it, your a big boy and Action is an early finish, lots of time to recovery
"good" Brad says, Bullshit - you wont recover, you and Graham will go to ARQ and stay up until the middle of the day then pay for it during the week.
"evil" brad says - yeah - so what it will be fun...
ARrrgghh.... what to do! ???
Dear Brad
It is a sad state of affairs when a gay man lets his work interfere with his social life.
See you at Action!
P.s. Do you know what time Steve Lawlers set is?
M2M Gold Coast Parties
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There is nothing more you have to do, other than enjoy yourself. We are looking to meet fun and friendly gay and bi sexual/curious men, who can get along with each other comfortably and effortlessly.
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If you cant control your intake or drag yourself straight home straight after instead of going to Arq then
stay home all weekend.
Look at poor Michael Buble the other night. Reputation in tatters cause he was onstage drunk. Imagine if you zoned out or fell asleep at the Telstra function ?
You never let weekend fun interfere with yr work.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion. I respect everyone's opinion. However, with the greatest respect to Panther's comment on this wall on Tuesday 3 June at 8.29am I have to say that I disagree with him. I hope it is not "taboo" to have my reasons for disagreement published on this site.
And so in the spirit of this discussion I shall now in a muture adult like fashion supply my reasons constructively without being nasty or rude as to why I disagree with him and I would expect that my comments pass thru the checkgate.
The original comment that says "Your post doesn't cut any slack with me. Nobody forces you to live in Adelaide" makes a valid point , and in my opinion is not nasty. I would challenge Panther to place the well used tag "this is the opinion of the poster" under his own post because
(a) It is not stating a fact, it is expressing an opinion, and
(b) Panther's opinion doesn't represent my opinion regarding the comment in question on this occassion
To elaberate further,
People who come on here bemoaning about how inadequate the gay scene is in the city that they live have nobody but themselves to blame. People have CHOICES in life. You either choose to live in a city with a small gay scene or if that isn't to your liking you can choose to pack up and move elsewhere where the gay scene might be more to your liking. Nobody in a developed world country is forcing you to live anywhere. Thats why Sydney is the biggest gay scene in the country. A large number of young gay people who grow up in country regions and other capitals cities are drawn to it like a magnet. It's a well known saying around the traps that a young gay Aussie guy or girl's gay education isn't complete until they've lived in Sydney. So while Jamie's lamenting of the Adelaide scene is stating a sad situation the fact remains that he can CHOOSE to do something about it and consider moving to another city where a more vibrant gay scene might exist.
It is therefore my contention that the original posting was not nasty but mearly stating a fact albeit stated in a blunt manner.
And of course, The above post is my opinion.
Feel free to agree or disagree with me but respect that I am entitled to this opinion. Thank you.
My opinion on "Your post doesn't cut any slack with me. Nobody forces you to live in Adelaide"
It's a glib acidic comment, dismissive and unnecessary. No one knows the poster's circumstances. So they should just pull up stumps and move to Sydney as soon as the scene in Adelaide starts to deteriorate? Maybe they will do that....leave friends behind, sell the house, quit the job, move away from family...and maybe they won't.
While having a vibrant gay scene is important to a lot of people, I think today's culture is more about choosing to live in a city which fulfills more criteria than just "a good gay scene". Adelaide is a beautiful, well designed, clean city. There are lots of reasons that someone would choose to live in Adelaide over Sydney. The fact that the gay scene isn't as vibrant as it could be is a negative (for some), but it's not something that everyone should necessarily decide their abode on.
But yes, I do agree - no one is forcing anyone to live anywhere. Jamie was commenting on what he (or she) thought of the scene in Adelaide. It shouldn't therefore be suggested that because of this complaint, that Adelaide is no longer a viable city to live in (which is definitely the impression that I, and no doubt other people got from your reply).
I'm not seeing a lot of talk about posters going to
Inquisition ?
Does anyone know numbers ?
From what I've heard, they have sold more tickets to Inquisition then they had at this stage last year.
Looks like it's going to be a great party!
For those unsure about Steve Lawler (who would have thought!!), download one of what I will say is his best tracks...
Steve Lawler "that Sound" any of the remixes...
Wicked track, has heaps of build up and then is going to be a raise the roof off.
I'm glad you said that !
I was thinking the same ie they may be caring for a family member, may not have the money to move or host
of other reasons and its hard moving away from family
and friends.
So does that then mean they should just shut up ?
No.
HOME NIGHTCLUB UP FOR SALE
As you may of heard it is true,
Home Nightclub is up for sale, obviously hasnt been making money...so what will happen to homesexual? there is talk of sublime being moved to arq on a friday night as well!
I love Inquisition. I can't wait to play and then have a dance afterwards.
Wearing some new gear out in public for the first time as well saturday night, so I hope the weather warms up a little
As for the rest of the weekend, going to an unofficial recovery sunday morning and would love to do Ruby, Action and Indulgence but doubt I can last the distance.
I'd love to see Manacle at some point too. So many choices no matter what music you're into this weekend, just proves the Sydney scene can still turn it on when it needs to.
The poster was saying, "People in Sydney should be grateful for the huge gay scene they have there, unless Adelaide". S/he wasn't complaining about Adelaide. It was just a gentle reminder that those of us who live in Sydney or Melbourne sometimes take our good fortune for granted. I see no harm in that.
Moving sublime to Arq would be appropriate as the straight community see Arq as merely a gay-friendly straight venue.
Then perhaps that would give the Midnight Shift the boost it needs to open on both Friday and Saturday nights?
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